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This is a conversation that was originally posted on Meghan Daum's 'Unspeakable' podcast as 'Talking Sense Into Sensemakers'.
David and Meghan talk about their shared history exploring the 'heterodox' space over the last years, and their impressions of what needs to come next.
Unspeakable podcast: https://www.theunspeakablepodcast.com/
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