This is a conversation that was originally post
ed on Meghan Daum’s ‘Unspeakable’ podcast as ‘Talking Sense Into Sensemakers’.David and Meghan talk about their shared history exploring the &#
8216;heterodox’ space over the last years, and their impressions of what needs to come next.Unspeakable podcast: https://www.theunspeakablepodcast.com/